Here's what I've done in a similar situation: 1) Set up Mailman to work the way I want. For example, in some lists I have it set up so that everyone can participate (like in this list), and in others I set it up so subscribers can get messages but only a select few can send. I do all this and more through Mailman's web interface. 2) I use my own website and PHP code to maintain the users (subscribers if you will). I use a PostgreSQL database but anything will work. 3) I set up a cron job on the hosting server that runs each night and: a) dumps the email addresses of subscribers from my database into a plain text file b) runs Mailman's "sync_members" script (look in Mailman's bin directory) to pull the names from the plain text file. Therefore each night Mailman's list is synchronized to the list I maintain with my own PHP based website. This works well for me, but there are issues. Perhaps the biggest is that if a user chooses to unsubscribe from your list using the links automatically included in messages sent via Mailman, *your* system won't be aware of the unsubscribe request and will re-subscribe them the next time the cron job runs. In practice (for my application anyway), this is a rare occurrence and can be handled with an apology. Cliff Nieuwenhuis IT Manager Architectural Design Consultants, Inc. c.nieuwenhuis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 608-254-6181 * * * -----Original Message----- From: Stephen [mailto:stephen-d@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:53 AM To: Curtis Maurand; php-general General List Subject: Re: Re: Thoughts Please About Design Strategy for Club Mailing List My host does have mailman available. I looked at it, but everything seemed to be manual. Is there an interface so that I could have PHP code maintain my members in the mailing list? Thanks -- Stephen On 16-03-30 02:16 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote: > You need a better shared hoster. Siteground comes to mind > (disclaimer, I do not work for them. I host websites and have mailman > available to my users.). Siteground does limit to 200 recipients at a > time, but since your list is 40. > > You could also lease a VPS and run mailman or phplist. That would > also get you cron and sendmail. > > Just a couple of thoughts. > > Cheers, > Curtis > > On 3/30/2016 12:09 AM, B. Aerts wrote: >> On 30/03/16 00:48, Stephen wrote: >>> >>> I am building a LAMP site on a shared server, Hostpapa, and I want >>> to be able to send emails to a mailing list. I have build sites >>> before, but a mailing list is new to me. >>> >>> Sendmail and cron are not available in this environment. >>> >>> I will have a table for member data, including their email address. >>> >>> I currently have 40 members, and expect to grow to no more than 200. >>> >>> Members will join through a web form, and I want to update the table >>> with a “pending” status. >>> >>> Using data in the table, I want to send emails to each member. I am >>> wondering about load. >>> >>> Will the PHP mail() function be OK? Do I have to be concerned about >>> timeouts? >>> >>> I would like to send a discrete email to each member. Or is just a >>> big BCC going to work? >>> >>> Anything else I should think about? >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >> >> Hi Steven, >> >> be aware some ISP's limit the numbers of mails sent per hour, to >> avoid mailbots sending spam from their domain. >> Better check in advance with your ISP what the limits are ( max. >> recipients per mail, max. # of mails per hour ) >> >> Other than that, I don't think 200 members is that big to handle. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bert >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php