On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:58 PM, David OBrien <dgobrien@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jeffry Killen <jekillen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > On May 20, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Derek Ellison wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Samuel Rhoades <srhoades28@xxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Everyone, > >>> > >>> I'm really new to web development and only just learning php which is > all > >>> very exciting, but I've hit a roadblock. I've created my first php > >>> website > >>> using XAMPP as a development environment, and it looks great, but now > I'm > >>> totally lost as to how to move it onto a remote server and actually put > >>> it > >>> on the web! I never thought this would be the hardest step for me! Can > >>> someone help me with the following questions... > >>> > >>> 1. Which hosting company is the best bang for your buck/easiest to > >>> configure for php applications? > >>> > >>> 2. Are there any good resources for learning how to get a website onto > >>> that > >>> server? > >>> ...I'm totally lost on this step. > >>> > >>> 3. What should I be using...SSH or SFTP and why? > >>> > >>> 4. Anything else you think I should know about to make this step easier > >>> in > >>> the future? > >>> > >>> Thanks for all the help! > >>> > >>> -Sam > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sam Rhoades > >>> -*Life Enthusiast* > >>> > >>> > >> > >> All the options I mention below assume you want to use Linux as the OS. > I > >> cannot and will not ever recommend the use of Windows. MacOS , I've > never > >> used. > >> > >> > >> 1. Which hosting company is the best bang for your buck/easiest to > >> configure for php applications? > >> > >> That is entirely up to what resources you need and how flexible you want > >> it > >> to be. There are pros and cons to anything and web hosting is no > >> different. > >> Since you're new to the web developer world, I'll explain a few > different > >> types and then give you some hosts I've personally used. > >> > >> VPS (Virtual Private Servers) have the most flexibility and are fairly > >> inexpensive today. The great thing about these are they are very > flexible. > >> They are dedicated environments that you have full control over. Usually > >> you manage these servers by way of SSH, but some do have options to > >> install > >> server management software. You can install whatever services you need > and > >> have maximum control. The draw back is pretty much that too; you have to > >> set up everything yourself -- usually. Some places, if you pay more, > will > >> setup web servers for you and even maintain them, with the ability for > you > >> to still manage everything yourself. This option is a lot of work, but > has > >> the greatest payoff in my personal opinion. Also, this can be a much > more > >> secure way to host your site, as long as you practice proper server > >> management. > >> > >> VPS: > >> Cons: More expensive than shared, but not too bad. Normally no > >> assistance from the hosting company on setting up the public facing > >> services. More involved setup process > >> Pros: Gives the most flexibility -- assuming you are willing to learn. > >> Can be more secure. > >> > >> Shared hosting would be the other beast. It's insanely cheap and fully > >> managed, but has other people sharing the same server. Since it's > managed > >> by the company, they say what version of software to install usually. > Even > >> big hosts usually have older version of software to support there other > >> hosts. What I mean is, you might get on a shared server that has Php > 5.3, > >> which is old. Not that it's bad, just you might need/want features of > >> newer > >> version. Most of the time the company is not able to upgrade the version > >> for you. > >> > >> The other draw back of shared hosting is security. If there is even one > >> wrong permission set, by you or the hosting company, other people on > your > >> server can access your files. I can tell you first hand that it's more > >> common than you think. Now, this shouldn't just sway you from this type > of > >> host because, like anything, as long as you practice good management and > >> learn about security, you'll be fine. > >> > >> Shared hosting: > >> Cons: Shared with other people, which can lead to security issues. > >> Hosting company maintains software, sometimes older version of software. > >> Most of the time, no SSH access. > >> Pros: Very cheap. Easier to setup, especially for newer folks. > >> Maintained by the hosting company means you only worry about your site > >> files. > >> > >> > >> Here are a few hosting companies. > >> > >> ixwebhosting: Shared, VPS. Pretty cheap rates for all. Customer service > is > >> excellent. I'm not sure about the VPS, but shared hosting they assign a > >> professional tech to assist you with your issues, free of cost. I found > >> this to be very helpful in the beginning. Pretty big company that's been > >> around a while. I used them for a few years before I started running my > >> own > >> server. > >> > >> GoDaddy: I have no actually not used them, but they are well > established. > >> I > >> think you have to pay extra for certain features as well, but a lot of > >> people use them. Their rates are pretty cheap as well. > >> > >> 2. Are there any good resources for learning how to get a website onto > >> that > >> server? > >> ...I'm totally lost on this step. > >> > >> This question really depends on the type of server you choose. Shared > >> hosts > >> have a user control panel that lets you manage your server, which is > >> really > >> simple to use. You normally upload the files this way as well. VPS > usually > >> requires you to setup the web server and any related software such as > PHP > >> or MySQL. Any good company you go with should have documentation on how > to > >> get your files up and running. > >> > >> 3. What should I be using...SSH or SFTP and why? > >> > >> These are mostly two different things. > >> > >> SSH is a protocol that allows you to manage your server and files. This > is > >> a less common feature among shared hosting companies (personally I've > >> never > >> seen a shared hosting company allow it). > >> > >> SFTP is FTP over SSH. This is a very secure way to send/receive files > from > >> your server. I have seen this feature on shared hosting companies, but > it > >> isn't always an option. > >> > >> Also, I assume you are asking about this for deploying your files. What > I > >> suggest is if you have access to SSH, use a version control system, like > >> GIT, to deploy your files. This turns moving files into a one or two > >> commands and allows you to revert changes easily. > >> > >> So really, it depends on your host on what you have access to. If the > >> hosting company has a server control panel, such as cPanel, Plesk, or > >> something else, you can upload the files (usually over HTTPS) directly > >> from > >> the control panel. No SSH or FTP needed. > >> > >> > >> 4. Anything else you think I should know about to make this step easier > in > >> the future? > >> > >> Be diligent. Web sites can and are a lot of work. Learn from mistakes > and > >> don't be afraid to get your feet wet. Learn a VCS, I recommend GIT. > >> > >> > >> Hopefully that helps you in any future project and good luck with your > >> site! Welcome to the world of web design and administration! > >> > > > > There is one other detail I neglected ot address in my original reply: > > access to data base servers in hosting service accounts almost always > > cost more than a basic site account with php (without mysql or other data > > base server > > access) > > So while you are using XMAMP, I presume you use it for the mysql data > > base. Be prepared > > to pay extra for a hosting service account with mysql or other data base. > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > If your not expecting a ton of traffic to start with you can have your own > server for 5 bucks a month ... plus you get $10 in free credit to start > with > > https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=f89732e1e117 > > Easy to setup a LAMP stacked server > Personally I would never recommend Godaddy or 1and1 for hosting. There are many other good hosts out there, but from my experience they are the worst once push comes to shove.
