Clearly you haven't read the whole thread. The subject line asks the question: "Why PHP sucks - farce or is there a bit of truth?" - and there is a link to the article of which I found many more btw. I am not dissing PHP at all. In fact, as I said, I have been a PHP programmer for many years... It was just one thing that puzzled me and that I followed up on. I even asked: "Is it faster to execute/implement if evaluated left-to-right?" which would be an argument for this. I've heard many people moan about lots of languages and there are weaknesses in most if not all of them. All I'm trying to do here is improving the language by raising issues (one at a time) on this list to better understand the language and get people thinking. Another issue I found is: Not so useful return values: <?php $b = false; $c = "orange"; $a = $b || $c; echo $a; outputs: 1 JS seems more convenient here. As a scripting language it also has the notion of truthy but returns the default value "orange". :-) Cheers, Tim Tim-Hinnerk Heuer Twitter: @geekdenz Blog: http://www.thheuer.com On 18 October 2013 16:45, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 13-10-17 09:05 PM, Tim-Hinnerk Heuer wrote: > >> a - b = (+a) + (-b) = (-b) + (+a) >> >> The argument is about the ternary operator though: >> #include<stdio.h> >> >> main() >> { >> int a = 1; >> printf("%s", (a == 1) ? "one" : (a == 2) ? "two" : "three"); >> >> } >> >> in C outputs: >> >>> one >>>> >>> >> So, why is PHP different? >> > > Why not? Both are valid interpretations. if you don't want ambiguity, > clarify the expression with parenthesis (as you've shown in a subsequent > post). One can't hinge the entire argument of whether PHP sucks on a > right-left/left-right interpretation of the ternary operator, yet this is > what you've chosen to focus on. > > Let's also put things in perspective, when a language reaches an audience > in the millions SOMEONE will have something to whine about... and it just > so happens some people like to whine loudly like a baby with a soiled > nappie. > > :) > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any > attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. > This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, > copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. >