Sorry in advance for the top post. Use the right tool for the Job. I've use Java, C# and PHP. 1. I hate the Perl-like object calls in PHP. I'd rather use "." notation in C# and Java. It saves a lot of wear and tear on my left pinky finger. 2. Java and C# are both typed languages. Say what you want, but I have working with a string like "02" and have PHP convert that to an integer. sometimes I want that zero in front. If I want that to be an integer in Java it's "int myInteger = Integer.parseInt("02");" 3. Java development environments (Eclipses, NetBeans, IBM RAD) are pretty horrible. Visual Studio is hands down a better envrionment, even the older versions of it. I've hooked Visual Studio into SVN in the past and it works well. 4 PHP development environments are many and varied and all of them suck at web debugging. I've used PHPEdit, Zend, Bluefish, Eclipse and a couple others. Bluefish works better on Linux than it does on Windows. Use the tool for the job at hand. Just my $0.02 worth. cheers, Curtis Tim Streater wrote: > On 20 Aug 2013 at 23:59, PHP List <phplist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> While I don't have any references to back it up - my guess would be >> that >> Java may be seen as more versatile in general programming terms. A >> staggering number of enterprise level web applications are built with >> Java, add to that the possibility of writing Android apps with the same >> knowledge. > > To me the salient point is, does java has as extensive a library or set of > interfaces to other packages (such as SQLite, mysql, etc)? > >> I would say that, in general, the other teacher is incorrect speaking >> strictly in terms of web development. PHP has already won that crown >> many times over. That said, when I was in University, it was difficult >> to find a programming class that taught anything but Java - and that >> was >> 10yrs ago now. I chalked it up to the education bubble not being able >> to see what the rest of the world is actually doing. > > Was PHP OOP-capable at the time? Perhaps the edu-bubble was simply looking > down its nose at PHP. There being lots of courses proves nothing in and of > itself. 20 years ago, there were lots of PC mags you could buy, which > caused some folks to say "look how much better the PC is supported than > other platforms". Truth was, at the time, such support was needed given > the mess of 640k limits, DOS, IRQs and the like, most of which issues have > ceased to be relevant. > > Anyway, why should one need a course to learn PHP, assuming you already > know other languages. It's simple enough. > > -- > Cheers -- Tim > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php