On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Jim Lucas <lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/24/2012 12:34 PM, Matijn Woudt wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Jim Lucas<lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I let my code ramble on as long a line as it needs. I use >>>>> tabs >>>>> (set to 8 chars) in my code. That is because the other developers that >>>>> I >>>>> work with have editors that can display the tabs in whatever width they >>>>> desire. I also do not wrap at 80 chars. >>>>> >>>>> But if you look back at any of my code examples that I have written, >>>>> none >>>>> of >>>>> them are longer then 80 characters, and uses two spaces for >>>>> indentation. >>>>> Simply because my email client is set to plain text and wraps at 80 >>>>> chars. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I can see that you do that indeed, but that does *not* guarantee that >>>> it is also seen that way. I think most of us use a 'smart' mail >>>> client, that automatically makes emails more readable by undoing these >>>> stupid line breaks at 80 chars. Gmail for example shows your mail as >>>> lines with approx 175 chars on my 17" notebook.. I'm not sure how >>>> Gmail sends my messages, but looking at the 'Show original' option, it >>>> seems it breaks long lines but might be at a different length too. >>>> >>>> - Matijn >>>> >>> >>> Well, not to talk bad about Gmail (I use it for personal accounts), but I >>> like using a client that I do have some control over what it does to my >>> email. Making sure that it retains my formatting is one of my first >>> requirements. >> >> >> That's where we have different requirements. My first priority is >> speed, both in access (email clients tend to be slow), and in delivery >> time. I really need emails to be delivered to my PC instantly, and >> that's not the case with POP3 and IMAP. Even push mail to my Android >> smartphone with original Gmail app is faster than POP or IMAP. >> >> - Matijn >> > > IMAP is not fast enough? I have my own mail server running SMTP & IMAP and > I use Thunderbird w/IMAP and when my mail server receives an email within 1 > to 2 seconds my client is notified. I'm not sure how you can get much > faster then that. > > You realize that IMAP works completely differently then POP. POP clients > fetch the mail. Normally on some preset time frame. IMAP clients are > notified by the server when a new message arrives. As long as your IMAP > client is open and logged into your account, that notification process will > take less then a couple seconds. > > I cannot see how IMAP is slow. > Might be of some other issues, don't know. Tried Outlook (Terrible, especially with Gmail), and Thunderbird (Works OK, e-mails tend to deliver after ~5 sec). With Gmail web interface (and Desktop notifications in Chrome), I receive mails in less than a second. On my Android phone I usually receive them within 1-2 sec, though that depends on connection. Note that with fast, I mean, really fast ;) - Matijn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php