[OT] Thanks for the informative reply Tedd. I respect your opinion and I don't think my approach is more right than yours. I am wondering if this is just a DTD thing. I always use an HTML 4.01 strict DTD and have not used an XHTML doctype in ages. As far as I can tell, the specs in XHTML say "not recommended", but I can't find similar text in HTML 4.01 specs. <b>Jenkins</b> vs. <span class="baz">Jenkins</span> ... to me, the latter seems to be overkill. <b class="baz">Jenkins</b> I can't of many times I have done the above... If I need to hook into the <b> or <i> I might just do this (for example): <div id="wrapper">Bob <b>Jenkins</b></div> #wrapper b { do whatever here } On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > As for me, I choose to never use <b> and <i> for anything PERIOD and to > speak out against their use whenever I can. As for <table> in presentation, > judgment, the <b> and <i> tags present more problems than they solve so I > will continue to not use those tags and speak against them. Looking at your site: http://sperling.com/ Viewing the source code on your homepage, I see <b> used 15 times in the body copy. I am assuming that maybe you have no control over that portion of your site due to the CMS you are using? Could you imagine using <strong> in all those instances where you used <b>? Don't you think that would be overkill? Sorry to everyone for taking this so OT for the PHP list. [/OT] Micky -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php