RE: php running as module or cgi?

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 -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hicks [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:11 PM
> To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  php running as module or cgi?
> 
> On 11/11/2010 02:14 PM, Didier Gasser-Morlay wrote:
> > On 11/11/2010 12:04 PM, Richard Quadling wrote:
> >> On 11 November 2010 00:46, Al<news@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> >>> Briefly, what are the trade offs on a typical shared host?
> >>>
> >>> I've done a little research and can't seem to find anything
> >>> outstanding either way.
> >>>
> >>> Seems like as an Apache module is faster. This argument makes sense.
> >>>
> >>> CGI is more secure, this argument doesn't seem too persuasive to me.
> >>> Maybe
> >>> I'm missing something.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks....
> >>
> >> As a module, any misbehaving script is running within the same space
> >> as all the other scripts. If a script is able to knock out PHP (for
> >> any reason), all the script go.
> >>
> >> With CGI, they are run in separate spaces. No direct communication
> >> (unless the scripts are sharing memory by some way). If a script
> >> knocks out PHP, that script dies. Everything else keeps on going.
> >>
> >> The main downside to CGI (as I understand things), is that for each
> >> invocation of the script, PHP has to do the complete build up and
> >> tear down every single time. For every single script.
> >>
> >> With FastCGI, when the server starts, a pool of ready to go php
> >> instances are created. So a script is called, the build up part is
> >> already done.
> >>
> >> In terms of speed, I'd guess you'd have to be working pretty hard to
> >> see the difference between module/isapi and fast-cgi.
> >>
> >
> > If I am not mistaken, An apache module can even bring down the whole
> > web server if it really misbehaves.
> >
> > So this leaves the choice between CGI & FatsCGI.
> >
> > CGI setup/teardown is only an issue for site with a fairly high
> > traffic. It really depends on the type of site you intend to build.
> >
> 
> To me, the main security issue with mod_php in a virtual domain
> configuration is that it runs as the apache user and therefore any php code
> can read any files accessible to apache.  If you have clients maintaining their
> own php code, they can access the code (and passwords and databases) of
> your other clients.
> 
> I've never used cgi but I hope that it allows you to avoid this problem.
> Am I correct?
> 
> --John
> 

FastCGI is being developed for Apache httpd, I found this out a few weeks ago while compiling AMP stack for Windows x64.  I don't remeber if it's stable yet.

Regards,
Tommy


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