> Let me repeat myself: did you have a look at Doctrine2? Hi Peter, I didn't mean to ignore your suggestion, I just got extremely overwealmed by the Doctrine website and didn't even have a response. I get the impression that, like Zend and others, learning how to install and use that would take longer than my 'little' website is worth. Maybe someday when I'm working for a more patient employer who's willing to pay me to learn. Insert laughter here. Marc -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php