On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Ashley Sheridan <ash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:37 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote: > > > > > > > 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan <ash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 18:09 +0100, Jan G.B. wrote: > > > > > 2010/3/18 Ashley Sheridan <ash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > I'd rather have short tags turned off than remember each > time that I have > > > > to keep breaking up the < and ?php before I output it in-case > the parser > > > > gets confused. > > > > > > > > > > You don't need to break anything up. It's perfectly valid and > without > > > problems: > > > > > > <?php echo '<?xml version.... ?>'; ?> > > > > > > > > > > What about this: > > > > <?xml version="1.0"> > > <?php > > > > > > > > > > > > It's confusing! =) > > > > > > That would break with short tags turned on. I often use this > > sort of code in my Ajax server stuff. I don't want to have to > > use PHP to echo out what would work on a normal setup. > > > > > > I can understand it. But I think it's nonsense to output one line of > > "text" (prolog) and then start with <?php - while arguing that the > > first line of PHP should not be an echo. Where's the point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Ash > > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was just a really small example. Imagine the <?xml line followed by > other lines of actual XML content that might remain static: > > <?xml version="1.0"> > <content> > <other_stuff/> > <even_more_stuff/> > <?php > // code that changes here > ?> > </content> > > I could use heredoc or nowdoc, but why that's just ugly, and the > resulting XML inside the heredoc/nowdoc isn't recognised as XML by any > editor I know of. All of that to avoid writing a few extra characters to > "save myself some work"... > > Thanks, > Ash > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk > > > - 310 characters. - Differentiation between code that's merely echoed and code that performs some operation. - XML is recognized by editors. - Easier for me to visually scan. <?= '<?xml version="1.0">' ?> <content> <?php foreach ($rows as $row) { ?> <row> <title><?= $row['title'] ?></title> <type><?= $row['type'] ?></type> <desc><?= $row['desc'] ?></desc> <date><?= $row['date'] ?></date> <other><?= $row['other'] ?></other> </row> <? } ?> </content> - 340 characters. - All code blocks consistent. - XML recognized by editors. <?xml version="1.0"> <content> <?php foreach ($rows as $row) { ?> <row> <title><?php echo $row['title']; ?></title> <type><?php echo $row['type']; ?></type> <desc><?php echo $row['desc']; ?></desc> <date><?php echo $row['date']; ?></date> <other><?php echo $row['other']; ?></other> </row> <? } ?> </content> Given the choice, I'd rather work with the first option, but I have no problem with those who prefer the second option. Adam -- Nephtali: PHP web framework that functions beautifully http://nephtaliproject.com
