Thanks for the reply Michael, Robert and Jochem, makes sense, a native windows app is going to look more in place than any of the demos and graphics i have seen of GTK. Was also looking at GTK-Builder, unfortunately you really have to hunt for each scrap of new info - which is why I'm guessing open source falls back a bit compared to M$'s offerings. MS shoehorning something into dotnet sounds interesting, will ask my pal google what he can bring up ;) I did read about FLEX but i have pretty much complete php scripts that i want to use in a desktop environment, FLEX wouldnt do for my (present) needs. Will look up WxWidgets and HipHop (somehow i get the feeling i'm gonna be drowned in millions of results that have rap lyrics instead of programming information - should be a test of my patience :-)) ) Anyone have anything more to add/advise, please do so. Cheers guys! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php