Oh, and i'd allow 1 (or _maybe_ 2) "very big" super-class(es) at the top level of a framework / cms, that do include 50-100 smaller classes. "midware" classes can evolve (be extracted) from the superclass, as your app evolves. Try to keep groups of functions relating to as few smaller/lower classes as possible, to allow that to happen naturally. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php