----- Original Message ---- > From: Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Eddie Drapkin <oorza2k5@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Lupus Michaelis <mickael+php@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 1:36:08 PM > Subject: Re: Searching on AlphaNumeric Content Only > > Eddie Drapkin wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Lupus > > Michaeliswrote: > >> Ashley Sheridan a écrit : > >> > >>> You'll have far greater performance issues if you retrieve all those > >>> records and attempt to do the same thing inside of PHP... > >> It's why I speak about « avoiding » and not « bannishing ». Like can be > >> usefull, I used to use it. But it is not the a good answer to all problems. > >> The problem with like operator is it can't use the index (or in a very > >> limited way). So I try to warn about it. > >> > >> So said, I never submit an all-retrieving method. I know it isn't the > >> solution too. > >> > >> -- > >> Mickaël Wolff aka Lupus Michaelis > >> http://lupusmic.org > >> > >> -- > >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > >> > > > > So far, in this thread, there've been a few solutions: > > 1) LIKE in SQL. > > 2) REGEXP in SQL. > > 3) PCRE in PHP > > 4) Other fetch all methods in PHP. > > > > The one thing that I'm seeing as a consistent agreement is that the > > performance hit of whichever of the aforementioned measures is going > > to be enough to be considering something else. I briefly mentioned - > > I apologize for the brevity of that email because I was in a hurry - > > that a legitimate full text search engine is the right solution to > > this problem. The only problem with deploying a full text search > > engine is going to be the difficulty in the deployment and perhaps > > issues if you're on shared hosting (but then again I am of the opinion > > that those who choose to run with shared hosting dig their own graves > > in more ways than one). > > > > What a full text search engine gives you is flexibility in your > > searches, such that the initial question, when I read it, I thought > > "Oh, someone will tell him to use Sphinx or Solr as both have special > > filters for word seperation and would handle this without any special > > instruction." Instead, this is never even brought up! > > > > Why was using a full text search engine to do this sort of thing - not > > to mention the other benefits that it would bring (responsiveness and > > flexibility in searching, speed, decreased use of MySQL, etc. etc.) - > > rejected so offhandedly? I can't actually think of a better way to do > > this without requiring a whole heap of overhead, either processing or > > programming. > > I've just sort of stopped in on this thread... but why isn't MySQL's > FULLTEXT engine being considered? If I remember correctly, it's only on available on MyISAM table type. I don't think the OP mentioned that he's using MyISAM or MySQL for that matter. > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > http://www.interjinn.com > Application and Templating Framework for PHP > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php