On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Ralph Deffke<ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > thanks for ur efforts, this is a lot of good work. > > for my opinion the start is a bit too much theoretical and valid for all > type of application. In simple words, u are too close to the book. > > I would love to have something closer to the purpose of PHP > and its applications. > > if u have a look at the SMARTY documentation u have good explanation (and a > bad example by the way concerned oop) what are the real world problem. > > When it comes to the final u find the most spagetti code in putting the page > grafic designer toghether with the business logic. > > It would be great if this could be put in good oop patterns. As I can not > see that with the little amount of time I have got, p l e a s e tell me what > will come up on this edge? > > ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx > > > "Martin Scotta" <martinscotta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message > news:6445d94e0908131322w722a37bbi24983ae143c5d89f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Ralph Deffke <ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> > so guys >> > >> > why u don't discuss Martins outcome? >> > is there no advice, idears? >> > isn't there a need for it? >> > nobody want to use it? >> > >> > I WANT TO LEARN >> > >> > ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > >> > >> >> I was following the entirely conversation, I must admit I wasn't expecting >> such thread. >> >> It is not common to see design patterns applied to PHP applications and, > is >> more common to don't see PHP applications. They are just scripts. Many >> scripts in a simple folder puts together to do the dirty work. >> >> Of course there are many kicking-ass PHP Applications, but they are a >> minimum portion compared to old-fashioned scripts. >> >> So, how do we start writing good quality PHP Applications? That's a very >> good question, and I don't know the answer, but I think by talking about >> design patterns we are in a good way. >> >> It's true that using design patterns the code will run slower, but it'll > be >> flexible, maintable, and the most important: simple. >> After all that's what we are looking for, something really simple that > make >> our life as developers happier every day. How do you explain the crescent >> number of php frameworks for rapid development? >> >> PHP core team has taken OOP seriously. >> Do you note the new SPL objects? The core team creates those objects using >> many designs patterns. >> By example the RecursiveDirectoryIterator and it's family use the > decorator >> pattern. >> Also features such as "late static binding" were added because a design >> pattern. >> >> I think there will be some "separation" in the community, those who will >> stay using scripts and those who will use heavily OOP. I do not know who > the >> "dark side" will be, xD >> >> >> -- >> Martin Scotta >> > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > L - O - L. Little time you've got? I just glanced at the list and you seem to have a lot of time typing up incoherent messages. I would suggest reading some books on programming architecture instead of typing out all sorts of silly emails that don't make any sense. As it turns out, if you know how to program in theory, the language itself becomes moot. Bai! -- http://www.ericbutera.us/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
