Hi Martin, thanks for ur efforts, this is a lot of good work. for my opinion the start is a bit too much theoretical and valid for all type of application. In simple words, u are too close to the book. I would love to have something closer to the purpose of PHP and its applications. if u have a look at the SMARTY documentation u have good explanation (and a bad example by the way concerned oop) what are the real world problem. When it comes to the final u find the most spagetti code in putting the page grafic designer toghether with the business logic. It would be great if this could be put in good oop patterns. As I can not see that with the little amount of time I have got, p l e a s e tell me what will come up on this edge? ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx "Martin Scotta" <martinscotta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6445d94e0908131322w722a37bbi24983ae143c5d89f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Ralph Deffke <ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > so guys > > > > why u don't discuss Martins outcome? > > is there no advice, idears? > > isn't there a need for it? > > nobody want to use it? > > > > I WANT TO LEARN > > > > ralph_deffke@xxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > I was following the entirely conversation, I must admit I wasn't expecting > such thread. > > It is not common to see design patterns applied to PHP applications and, is > more common to don't see PHP applications. They are just scripts. Many > scripts in a simple folder puts together to do the dirty work. > > Of course there are many kicking-ass PHP Applications, but they are a > minimum portion compared to old-fashioned scripts. > > So, how do we start writing good quality PHP Applications? That's a very > good question, and I don't know the answer, but I think by talking about > design patterns we are in a good way. > > It's true that using design patterns the code will run slower, but it'll be > flexible, maintable, and the most important: simple. > After all that's what we are looking for, something really simple that make > our life as developers happier every day. How do you explain the crescent > number of php frameworks for rapid development? > > PHP core team has taken OOP seriously. > Do you note the new SPL objects? The core team creates those objects using > many designs patterns. > By example the RecursiveDirectoryIterator and it's family use the decorator > pattern. > Also features such as "late static binding" were added because a design > pattern. > > I think there will be some "separation" in the community, those who will > stay using scripts and those who will use heavily OOP. I do not know who the > "dark side" will be, xD > > > -- > Martin Scotta > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
