Re: Internal PHP caching methodology

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Eric Butera wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Daniel Kolbo<kolb0057@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Call me a dreamer...but I got to ask.
>>
>> Is there any software for helping speed up PHP by utilizing internal PHP
>> caching?
>>
>> I am not talking about the external php cache/header control.  Smarty
>> caching doesn't give me the control I need either.
>>
>> I would like to cache to a finer level than page by page, but rather on
>> a module by module basis.  Each of my pages contains a subset of
>> modules.  The content of these modules changes based upon certain
>> criteria (link, time, session data, but is sometimes static across the
>> site).  I would like to be able to cache individual "modules"
>> (preferably based upon frequency and time to generate).
>>
>> I am trying to develop a way to do this, but I have to think a brighter
>> mind has come before me and hopefully arrived at a solution.
>>
>> As always any help/thoughts are much appreciated, except for that one
>> guy's comments (you all know who I am talking) ~ jk ;)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> `
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> 
> Have you actually profiled your code to see where the pain points are
> vs saying 'module?'  Are you also running an opcode cache?  From there
> you can use data, block, or full page caching.  Finally you can figure
> out if you want to store it in flat files or memory.  I'd start by
> knowing what is actually the slow part using Xdebug and nail a few
> down.
> 
> There is no end all solution.  Some pages really don't have a lot
> going on and are hardly updated so full page is fine.  Others might
> have something that is hard to generate on a sidebar, so block caching
> would be more suitable for that.  As previously mentioned, Zend_Cache
> is up to the task.  There is also a PEAR package called Cache_Lite
> which would work to if you're interested in file based caching.
> 

So dreams do come true...

Thank you for the wonderful insight.  I've been reading about the
memcached and Xdebug and Zend_Cache.  I've got lots to learn, but it is
exactly the type of material i was trying to find.

I am not currently running an opcode cache.  I may be doing "premature
optimization", but i want to design the entire system intelligently from
the get go rather than having to rebuild later.  you know 'work smarter
not harder'....

Is it possible to run xdebug on a virtual host server on which i do not
have shell access?  I can modify php.ini via cgi, but I don't know if
i'd be able to view the results of xdebug on the machine.  Your opinion
would be appreciated.

Thanks so much, i feel like i've just been shown a whole new world.
dK
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