http://www.ajaxload.info/ Regards, Igor Escobar Systems Analyst & Interface Designer + http://blog.igorescobar.com + http://www.igorescobar.com + @igorescobar (twitter) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Eddie Drapkin <oorza2k5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Bastien Koert<phpster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Michael A. Peters<mpeters@xxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> Martin Scotta wrote: > >>> > >>> I found extremely un-productive editors or IDEs like Eclipse or Zend > >>> Studio. > >>> > >>> I use SciTE. > >>> > >>> It don't has any feature you are talking about... > >>> > >>> but it.. > >>> # do not eat all you ram > >>> # starts in a microsecond > >>> # opens any type of file > >>> # paints the code in pretty colors. > >>> # has a little intellisense using pre-written words or api files > >>> > >>> > >> > >> I almost exclusively use bluefish, the closest I come to an IDE for > anything > >> I do is emacs + AUCTeX for my occasional TeX needs. > >> > >> I also use vim and on the rare occasions I'm stuck with Windows, > something I > >> think called PSPad (not sure, downloaded it awhile back at my parents > >> house). I actually have a license for Homesite, but I don't think I can > >> install it on their computer and I don't run Windows anymore. That was > nice. > >> > >> On a Mac - bbedit for everything. > >> > >> However, all that being said, I do very little php. Right now though a > >> little more than usual. > >> > >> -- > >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > >> > > > > over the past little while I have been using > > > > komodo edit (free) - good (more like a text editor with some brains), > > good code completion and hinting > > aptana studio (free) - eclipse based, bigger learning curve, but lots > > of functionality > > netbeans (free) - good, nice interface > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bastien > > > > Cat, the other other white meat > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > Well the thing about being productive out of the box with Zend Studio > isn't entirely related to Zend Studio, it's more of an Eclipse > problem. Eclipse itself, whether using it in a heavily modified form > like Aptana or PDT or Zend Studio, or just using it out of the box for > Java development or C/C++ development or anything in between, has a > ridiculously steep learning curve for what's really just a fancy text > editor. While this turns a lot of people off, I was lucky (although I > sure didn't think so at the time) enough to have it forced on me when > I was learning Java in school. And in the end, I'm pretty glad that I > was forced to learn Eclipse because it's been the go to editor for all > my coding needs, whether PHP, Python, C, Java, even complex shell > scripting. And whenever someone is learning to develop and gets to > the point that they'd actually take advantage of some of the more > advanced features of Eclipse - step through debugging, code > autocompletion, etc. - I recommend that they take some time out of > learning the code, or coding, and learn Eclipse. The second Java > class I took was actually "learning Eclipse" and it was one of the > more useful classes that I've taken, given that there's no longer a > learning curve for any IDE that I want to use. > > Yes, Eclipse is pretty intimidating and oftentimes more complicated > than it needs to be, but there's a level of customizability that > doesn't exist in any other editors that I've seen. Whether it's > making code look and behave exactly the same, or binding keybindings > to things like SVN commit / update / resolve, it's all possible in > Eclipse. Whether you use Aptana, PDT, Zend Studio (>= 6.0) or another > derivative, I'd definitely recommend using Eclipse and once you've > topped the learning curve, you'll be able to say that your IDE > actually boosts your productivity significantly, which is the ultimate > goal anyway. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
