2009/6/11 PJ <af.gourmet@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Robin Vickery wrote: > > > > > > 2009/6/11 PJ <af.gourmet@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:af.gourmet@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > > How can order by be forced to order alphabetically and ignore accents > > without stripping the accents for printout? This is a problem for > both > > caps & normal letters. > > > > > > Depends on the database. > > > > If you're using mysql, the order is governed by the collation used. To > > get the order you want, you need a case-insensitive and > > accent-insensitive collation. Exactly which one you use will depend on > > the character set that you're using, but if you're character set is > > utf8, then the utf8_general_ci collation should work: > > > > SELECT fieldname FROM tablename ORDER BY fieldname COLLATE > > utf8_general_ci; > > > > -robin > Nice thought, Robin. My collation is already uft8_general_ci. > Adding that condition to the query changes nothing; and specifying > another collation return a blank or null and the list is not echoed. > Even changing the collation in the db does not change anything. Same > wrong results. > Thanks anyway. Hiyah, Well the mysql docs confirm that utf8_general_ci is accent-insensitive and case-insensitive ( http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.4/en/charset-collation-implementations.html). Which implies that maybe you don't actually have utf8 text in that field. If you do a SHOW VARIABLES LIKE 'character_set%'; what do you get for character_set_client, character_set_results and character_set_connection? -robin