2009/6/11 PJ <af.gourmet@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > How can order by be forced to order alphabetically and ignore accents > without stripping the accents for printout? This is a problem for both > caps & normal letters. Depends on the database. If you're using mysql, the order is governed by the collation used. To get the order you want, you need a case-insensitive and accent-insensitive collation. Exactly which one you use will depend on the character set that you're using, but if you're character set is utf8, then the utf8_general_ci collation should work: SELECT fieldname FROM tablename ORDER BY fieldname COLLATE utf8_general_ci; -robin
