[snip] > [snip] > How can order by be forced to order alphabetically and ignore accents > without stripping the accents for printout? This is a problem for both > caps & normal letters. > [/snip] > > Definitely an SQL question. What character set are you using in your > database? Is the accent the first character of the string or is this a > multi-byte character? > utf8 general the accents are French - including first character and others in the words... e.g. Érable comes up before Autres; and Céréales appears before Café... I imagine it's a collation (character set) problem. I don't know what to use to eliminate this problem. Should the collation be latin1 swedish_ci ? I have never received a definitive response even on this list. :-( And this is an ever recurring problem as I work with several languages which all have accents... [/snip] Have you considered asking on the list of the database of your choice? Like the MySQL list? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php