I had an id killing me the other day. Turned out I was going blind. A different font or glasses would have helped me see that I was not using the id I thought I was. Just a thought. The following are 5 different characters: iIl1! Also, the debug tools I mentioned should confirm that they have the same computed styles. Then you can continue pulling your hair out if they do. I also had an issue where "px" was not included and it was not defaulting to "px". -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php