tedd wrote:
At 4:05 AM +0100 5/18/09, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
And by the way, this attitude of "My code is fine; your browser sucks;
upgrade" can be the worst kind of arrogance, and people react to it
exactly as though it were arrogance. There used to be the same kind of
attitude with regard to screen resolution. 640x480 was just so "80s",
and *all* the latest monitors supported 1280x1024 or whatever. So we
design for 1280x1024 and screw those Luddite users. I would agree if
someone's using Netscape 4; you'd have to kindly break it to them that
they really should upgrade. But beyond that, it gets gray.
-snip-
yeah - major difference being that upgrading your web browser if free,
and as we well know you can have multiple browsers installed with no
problems.
I understand what you are saying, but if 50%+ of the worlds web
developers simply cut support for x, y & z browser (or displayed a
limited site with a notice) then I think the old browsers may just go
away (90%). eg if google, facebook, msn, ebay, yahoo all cut support
for them..
Nathan:
In most technical things you are right, but here I have to agree with
Paul. The user is king -- you must to design for them regardless of
their browser of choice -- even if their choice is a bad one.
There are places/companies where they do not want to upgrade because of
the problems and cost of upgrading. There are managers who believe
"Everything works. There's no reason to upgrade". I know a lot of people
who are frozen in time with their computer system because it has reached
it's technological end. Also, many don't have the money to upgrade and
to some, our discarded systems are the only things they can afford. What
do we do with them -- discard them as well?
According to my stats, IE 6 has a popularity of around 15 percent and
that is dropping at around one percent per month. At some point, IE6
will fall to IE5 levels (< 1%) and we won't have to consider it any
longer regardless. But until then, any responsible web developer should
accommodate IE 6 regardless of it's shortcomings.
Cheers,
tedd
sadly I agree - and that's what I do as well, because I have to - but I
don't want to and loathe every minute of it :p
there's nothing that makes me cringe as much as a client mailing me
saying "my wifes cousin was just on the site and she said the sites
doesn't look right", then after 2 days of communication I find its
because they're on ie5.5 or something worse; and one feels compelled to
do it gratis.
I'm not going to rant - but yup you're right ted we have to - just part
of me wanted fifteen thousand developers to reply going "I agree, I am
hither too not supporting anything before ie7" - we can dream!
regards!
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