Re: CSS & tables

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On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 14:59 -0400, PJ wrote:
> tedd wrote:
> > At 1:25 PM -0400 5/15/09, PJ wrote:
> >> I know of no better place to ask. This may not be strictly a PHP issue,
> >> but...
> >> I am busting my hump trying to format rather large input pages with CSS
> >> and trying to avoid tables; but it looks to me like I am wasting my time
> >> as positioning with CSS seems an impossibly tortuous exercise. I've
> >> managed to do some pages with CSS, but I feel like I am shooting myself
> >> in the foot or somewhere...
> >> Perhaps I am too demanding. I know that with tables, the formatting is
> >> ridiculously fast.
> >> Any thoughts, observations or recommendations?
> >
> > PJ:
> >
> > You have a choice:
> >
> > 1. Learn css and do it right;
> >
> > 2. Use tables.
> >
> > If you are in a time pinch, number 2 will suffice enough to get it
> > past a client (besides, what do they know anyway). But number 1 is
> > really the best way to go. Never use tables to hold a layout together.
> >
> > I know, I have clients who *require* me to use tables for their layout
> > and I must bite my lip and comply. But, more and more clients are
> > listening to reason as they discover it really is better way to go.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > tedd
> >
> Thanks Tedd et al., for your input.
> I see that may limited experience was sufficient to understand what you
> are all saying: CSS is fine for graphical layouts even with some of the
> image limitations, but input/form and more than 1 column formatting is
> hell in CSS. So While I was awaiting your input, I set up my tables, had
> lunch and whistled Dixie. 8-)
> Oh, yes... the client was going up the wall with the time I was wasting
> with CSS... the client being myself. ;-)

There's a time for purism (such as in debate or mental exercise) and
there's a time for pragmatism (such as when you're about to be fired for
taking too long ;)

Cheers,
Rob.
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