On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Shadle <mike503@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:20 AM, haliphax <haliphax@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Given the fact that Gears requires a client-side installation, has an >> awful penetration percentage, and his original solution is all >> server-side (though it does require APC and YUI-JS), I wouldn't say >> this is a very good suggestion. Compared to what he has already found, >> the Gears solution is not "clean" by any stretch of the imagination. > > a) the native solution that requires APC is not multi-webserver capable > b) i was just sharing a different approach to an idea. who knows. it > might be something to explore. gears is pretty lightweight, and for > the ease of this and the functionality it brings (not to mention > cross-browser+platform) i see a compelling reason to give it a shot. > c) the APC method -still- requires webserver tweaks and post max size > etc. this is sending small chunks of data, is proxy-safe, and requires > nothing on the server; all that is required is gears, which is a > library to extend your browser's capabilities and i have not heard any > issues with it or security holes thus far. penetration is an issue but > when more sites push it and say "hey, you should install it" the > penetration will grow. not to mention youtube for example is using > roughly the same method and picking up a lot of browser installs off > that. > i completely disagree it is not "clean" - it is literally one browser > addon that a lot of people do have, comes from a reputable company, > and creates basically limitless upload capabilities - i can do 300 meg > files without blinking - it's not one long single POST that can fail > anytime, it's lots of small POST requests; it takes basic PHP on the > server and then some javascript for the UI (all the pieces to get a > basic functional install i sent links to) Unless you are in a corporate environment where you control what is installed on your visitors' machines, then just about any server-side hell you have to put yourself through is "cleaner" to the client than them needing to install ANYTHING. I'm sorry if my opinion seems a little too "black and white," but those are the breaks. I can definitely say that, coming from a higher education institution standpoint, the site I work on would ALWAYS do something server-side and exhaust all of those possibilities before forcing prospective students, applicants, etc. to download additional software for their web browser. It depends on the clientele, really. -- // Todd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
