Or I suppose ANY alternatives. There is Sympa, which seems to have an even worse reputation than mailman to configure, and the last two seemed to have died for the most part and have been taken over by mailman...? Majordomo was last updated in 2000. ezmlm Listserv is commercial with a pretty hefty tag. But worth looking into, I suppose. It does look like Majordomo 2 has been kept up to date, or at least their nightly build script has stayed up to date. http://www.mj2.org/ I guess any "Mailing List Manager" would work. It needs to be a two-way exchange, not like PHPList which is a one-way announcement type thing. I am posting to this list because a) it is on topic as I would prefer a PHP version and b) you can reply to me off-list with non-PHP ideas. Commercial and free (free/OSS is the best of course) ideas are open. Also, it must be self-hosted. Due to the content on the mailing list it cannot be hosted at a third party provider. I am sure must be many more options out there. http://www.hotscripts.com/category/php/scripts-programs/mailing-list-managers/ seems to have a lot but most so far appear to be one directional "newsletter" type programs. I'm looking for a mailman type program. Perhaps "mailing list manager" is not the right title? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php