On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 12:46 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 10:55 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> >> Robert Cummings wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 21:18 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> >>>> Matthew Croud wrote:
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First post here, I'm in the process of learning PHP , I'm digesting a
> >>>>> few books as we speak.
> >>>>> I'm working on a content heavy website that provides a lot of
> >>>>> information, a template system would be great and so i've been looking
> >>>>> at ways to create dynamic data with a static navigation system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So far, using the require_once(); function seems to fit the bill in
> >>>>> order to bring in the same header html file on each page.
> >>>>> I've also looked at Smartys template system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wondered how you folk would go about creating a template system ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My second question might be me jumping the gun here, I haven't come
> >>>>> across this part in my book but i'll ask about it anyway. I often see
> >>>>> websites that have a dynamic body and static header, and their web
> >>>>> addresses end like this: "index.php?id=445" where 445 i presume is some my
> >>>>> file reference.
> >>>>> What is this called ? It seems like the system i'm after but it doesn't
> >>>>> appear in my book, If anyone could let me know what this page id
> >>>>> subject is called i can do some research on the subject.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matt.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I have written a popular theme/template system for some CMS systems. In
> >>>> my opinion, templating is only needed for those that are totally
> >>>> ignorant of the concept of programming languages in general.
> >>> I'm not sure... but I'm pretty sur eyou just called me ignorant. Blanket
> >>> statements like that one above are themselves ignorant.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Rob.
> >> Well then you're ignorant because I didn't call you ignorant! Didn't
> >> you write your own template system?
> >>
> >> Seriously though, I should have worded that differently. I guess the
> >> second paragraph was more what I was after. But to clarify the first
> >> paragraph, I would suspect if they are anything like me, many of those
> >> that know and use PHP prefer to do control type things in PHP (loops,
> >> ifs, includes, etc.). I know I do. I like templating in that I use a
> >> template (HTML file) and add echos, or use simple templating logic so
> >> that {somevar} echoes $somevar, but why replicate what PHP can do with a
> >> separate language?
> >
> > To punt what is repeated over and over during runtime to a single
> > compilation phase when building the template target. To simplify the use
> > of parameters so that they can be used in arbitrary order with default
> > values. To allow for the encapsulation of complex content in tag format
> > that benefits from building at compile time and from being encapsulated
> > in custom tags that integrate well with the rest of the HTML body. To
> > remove the necessaity of constantly moving in and out of PHP tags. To
> > speed up a site. To speed up development. To make easier to use for
> > non-developers. To integrate standards compliance checks into the build
> > phase. To do sooooooooooooooo many things that are just inconvenient and
> > tedious using intermingled PHP code with fixed parameters order (or
> > alternatively a big fugly array).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
>
> Is that it?
No... I could have gone on :)
Cheers,
Rob.
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