On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Paul M Foster <paulf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 03:20:48PM -0500, tedd wrote: > >> At 3:54 PM +0000 2/8/09, Stuart wrote: >>> 2009/2/8 tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> > I wasn't able to find a lot of information, but here's a useful link: >>>> >>> > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html >>> >>> Tedd, that's a list of programming languages, not web development >>> languages. >> >> The list shows php, javascript, ruby, and perl -- are those NOT web >> development languages?!? >> >> ----- >> >>> I have no doubt that C# + VB accounts for more development >>> in the world than PHP. Both are used extensively in non-web >>> development whereas PHP is not. >>> >>> > If you find any information of the numbers of php users out there, >> please >>> > let me know. >>> >>> When you consider how such a thing would be measured it won't take >>> long to realise why the number is not available. You have to bear in >>> mind non-public use which will not be insignificant, servers where PHP >>> is not advertised and a multitude of other reasons why any number you >>> could come up with *will* be wrong, and therefore pretty useless. >>> >>> Why anyone would see value in such a number is beyond me. IMHO the >>> community that exists around it and the number of jobs out there >>> requiring PHP should be enough to convince anyone that it's not an >>> insignificant player. >> >> -Stuart >> >> I guess I'm not all that bright. To me a programming language is a >> programming language regardless of platform or purpose -- that was so >> when I was programming FORTRAN on Phoenix I, or Applesoft on Apple >> ]['s, or postscript on HI's; or ANSI C on Alphas, or FutureBasic and >> C/C++ on Macs, or PHP on Apache, or Javascript on IE -- they are all >> the same to me. I'm just trying to get a handle on the number of >> people who program in php -- what's wrong with wanting to know that >> figure? >> >> Look, I teach at the local college and am trying to get PHP/MySQL >> courses to be taught there. I have superiors who are asking "How does >> PHP stack up against ASP?" which the college teaches AS THE web >> development language. I really can't go back to them and say "Well, >> everyone just *knows* PHP is a significant player" -- that's not >> proof. > > Perhaps a better question then might be how many IIS servers are there > out there compared to Apache. Apache servers uniformly support PHP, but > I think only IIS servers support ASP (I could be wrong). We're running PHP under IIS where I currently work. For that matter, I'm pretty sure the headers spit out that both ASP.NET and PHP are supported on these machines, even though we're not currently using ASP.NET. Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
