Eric Butera wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Kevin Waterson <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 18:03 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote: >>> From what I could tell, this was >>> the best RAD, however if you prefer to lay everything out your own way >>> and do things your own way then probably CI or Zend. >> I use Zend every day in my current employ. >> It is like pulling teeth and its feature set is not as rich as >> they would have you believe. >> Zend DB is pathetic >> Zend Form (although not from Zend itself) is abstraction for >> abstractions sake and is mind numbingly complex. >> The lack of a model loader is laughable. >> The list goes but you get the point, this is supposed to be from >> "the makers of PHP" and is supposed to be a mature framework and >> ready for enterprise level applications. >> What a joke. >> >> but, just my $0.02 >> Kevin >> >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > > And what exactly do you expect for the model layer? That's the part > you are supposed to write on your own. > Supposed to? Who says? The DB yes, but if you design the DB correctly and want your models tightly coupled with the DB, then it is an useless step to create the model yourself. Zend has a Zend_Tool script in the incubator that does project and some code gen. Reading the plans they plan to include model generation as well. It will probably be a while in coming though. To me, right now Zend is just a more professional and consistent PEAR, but with fewer features. -- Thanks! -Shawn http://www.spidean.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php