Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:53:55PM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > > >> Paul M Foster wrote: >> > > <snip> > > >>> Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can >>> change the content on a page interactively as the user described >>> *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is >>> how it manages this feat. >>> >>> For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* >>> solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a >>> Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's >>> not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's >>> a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple >>> thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos >>> about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >> I'm not saying that he should use it. I'm saying that *YOUR *claim was >> false. You should watch what you say. You said you *HAVE* to reload >> which is not true. I said nothing about without JavaScript. I agree >> that he shouldn't necessarily use that. That's why I snipped his stuff >> out and just quoted you. >> > > Since he asked the question on a *PHP* list, I assumed he wanted a *PHP* > solution, not a Javascript one. I also assumed that the OP was not a > Javascript programmer, since as a Javascript programmer, the solution > should have been obvious in Javascript. Ergo, my statements were in the > context of a *PHP* solution to his question. > > Moreover, his question indicated that he didn't understand some basic > fundamentals of the PHP execution model. Throwing a framework or > Javascript solution at him would have been like putting a 14 year old > behind the wheel of a Ferrari. > > But fair warning to all list members and future newbies who post here: > If you ask for a solution on *this* list, and you give indications that > you're not familiar with how PHP works with HTTP and HTML, then I will > give you a PHP-based solution, and avoid Javascript, Java, C, Perl, > Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, .NET, C++, C#, ECMAScript, Algol, PL/1, > assembler, APL, Fortran, COBOL, frameworks and other assorted odds and > ends which *might* do what you want, but aren't what you asked for. > > (Of course, I might give you a LISP/Scheme solution, though. ;-) > > > Paul > It's fine if you want to give a pure PHP solution, but please don't make false statements when doing so. Keep in mind that there are archives and someone reading them might think something is impossible when it in reality is very simple. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
