Re: Re: Opinions / Votes Needed

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"Skip Evans" <skip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
news:49733D18.6080008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>I will be brief. Tony is a dick.

To quote your own words: "There's just no need to insult other list members 
like this."

-- 
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org

> Peace & Love,
> Skip
>
> Tony Marston wrote:
>> "Skip Evans" <skip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
>> news:49723137.2010202@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Wow, Tony, do you think in the future you could try to express yourself 
>>> with just a bit more civility and in a less condescending tone?
>>>
>>> Nathan expressed some thoughts he had, politely, and when out of his way 
>>> to come across in a non-critical and non-confrontational manner.
>>>
>>> Tony Marston wrote:
>>>> Absolute rubbish!
>>> There's just no need to insult other list members like this.
>>
>> Saying that someone's ideas are absolute rubbish is not an insult. 
>> Calling him a moron would be, but I did not.
>>
>>> Frankly, it's this kind of treatment that make these lists less 
>>> productive than they could be.
>>
>> And you think that his ideas for changing PHP to suit his particular 
>> programming style would be productive? I think not.
>>
>>> It intimidates less experienced programmers from asking good questions,
>>
>> What makes you think that he is an inexperienced programmer? What makes 
>> you think that these are good questions? He is saying that he doesn't 
>> like the way that PHP works and wants it changed to suit his personal 
>> needs.
>>
>>> lest they get treated the way Nathan was. And isn't helping out less 
>>> experienced coders one of the reasons this list exists?
>>>
>>> And it also makes others less inclined to participate, or drop off the 
>>> list entirely.
>>
>> If it stops feeble minded people from filling this forum with useless 
>> requests then surely that's a good thing? Personally I'm sick and tired 
>> from reading posts such as this which say "I'm used to language X, and my 
>> feeble brain cannot cope with the differences, so why can't PHP be 
>> changed to behave like language X?"
>>
>>> It's NOT just so we can blast each other and show off our highly 
>>> dubiously assumed superiority.
>>>
>>> With all the frustrations we put up with in our daily lives, I would 
>>> hope a list like this, especially since we are among colleagues, could 
>>> be a place we could at least cautiously expect to be treated with 
>>> respect.
>>
>> Then the OP should respect PHP for what it is, and not request changes 
>> that would make it unusable for 99.999% of  the millions of programmers 
>> who have already written millions of programs with it. PHP is successful 
>> because of the way it works, and changing the way it works, as suggested 
>> by the OP, would not make it more successful. On the contrary, I think 
>> that it would PHuck it up completely.
>>
>> But that's just my opinion.
>>
>
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