Re: Architecture patterns in PHP

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I'm interested in this topic as well. I'm starting out on a reasonably large
web application, and I'm wondering at the best approach in PHP, particularly
since it's been some years since I worked with PHP on a daily basis (the
last 5 years have been purely C#).

There's some dev community bias against using frameworks, isn't there? On
one hand I'd love to take an approach that would make my end goal easier
(thanks for pointing out Code Igniter, I'll look into it further), but on
the other hand I'd rather avoid choices that 'tainted' (perhaps not the
right word, but the best I could think of) the overall acceptance of the
application once it's ready for release.

So, currently I'm wondering about things like, 'Do I make an app that is a
distinct page-per-function, or do I make an app that uses a monolithic
index.php (similar to Wordpress?) and dynamically presents
*everything*based on querystring values.'

M is for Murray


On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Nathan Nobbe <quickshiftin@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>
>
>  Hey,
>>
>> How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of
>> separating presentation  and logic. How is that done in PHP?
>>
>
> mvc is pretty popular, but php is so flexible you often don't need it for
> smaller applications.
>
> For example, if you take a page-controller approach, a php app is dead
> simple.  You have a seperate entery point for evrything; login.php,
> register.php, etc could be considered controllers, then all your common
> logic comes in via some includes, hopefully files outside the webroot.  then
> you have some template directory w/ files that are a mixture of php and
> html(for example).  your 'controller' files include the library code, hit
> the db (if necc.) and then stuff data into the templates for output.
>
> if you want to see an exmple if a more traditional mvc there are scads of
> open source frameworks out there which use a front controller approach. Code
> igniter is really straight forward, you can probly learn quickly from it.
>
>  And how many architecture patterns are there?
>>
>
> please do try to avoid pandoras box on the list ;)  It can result in 100+
> post threads, heh.  that being said patterns are pretty general things,
> that's why they're called patterns.  most of the time various languages will
> result in slightly different concrete realizations of a pattern, but you'll
> find most of them rather simple to realize in php.  One that really isn't
> well suited to phps build-up / tear-down paradigm is the state pattern.
>  much easier in java or cpp, imo.
>
> -nathan
>
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