interesting points regarding college and programming.. my degrees bsee/msee covered alot more than pure programing.. as a double ee/cs, the ability to articulate an issue/problem, and bring to mind a cogent thought process was valuable. the ability to understand how different algorithms worked, and how code actually played with the lower intracacies of the processor where quite valuable. and no.. i'm no longer the engineer i was a time ago.. so.. interesting... -----Original Message----- From: Wolf [mailto:lonewolf@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:55 AM To: tedd Cc: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: while-question > Dabbling? > > I think that making a living from it isn't dabbling, so I may not be > qualified to speak for the dabblers. > > But for me, I was writing code before there were such courses. Later, > when I went to college I was taught adventures in keypunching and > received several "next to worthless" degrees. > > I say "next to worthless" only because what they taught really wasn't > applicable to real world programming. As for management, clients, and > hr types, the degrees mattered, but not for much more than that. > > In any event, I doubt if any college courses are keeping up with > current web technology -- there has always been a lag between what's > practiced and what's taught. What I've seen of college web sites, > seems to support that claim. > > If I was taught in college all I needed to know, then what am I doing > with these dozens of web books scattered about my office? I probably > read a new book every other week. I don't "dabble" in it either, unless you consider making my living from being a dabbler, in which case I'll continue to dabble and see the pay for it. My alma-mater tried to stay current to some degree, but when they let someone who wrote the C++ book try to teach it, well they gave that person more rope then they needed. Tedd, glad you got hooked on Phonics. One of these days I hope from graduating from just looking at the pictures, but right now the pictures are oh so enticing!. ;) Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php