On 2 Oct 2008, at 17:12, Jay Moore wrote:
Stut wrote:
It's also worth noting that since subscriptions is not required to
post to these lists there's no guarantee that the OP will get your
reply if you don't include their address. IOW you're asking us to
deprive a number of developers seeking assistance of our replies
because you can't get your own $%*£ in order. How does that make
you feel?
Why is it that it's not ok to top post, but it's perfectly fine to
not subscribe to the list? It's extremely rude and arrogant to post
to the list and expect people to respond to you personally. In
fact, people get all up in arms if someone requests it.
Subscribing to this list is a commitment to receiving a fair amount of
email and that should not (IMHO) be required in order to get help. But
maybe I'm just too giving.
I don't reply-all. If I have an answer that will help someone, I
post it to the list. If they can't be bothered to subscribe to see
my reply, tough cookies. The question went to the list; the
response went to the list. (I feel just fine about this, btw. Thank
you for your concern.)
I do not believe either my email client or my email server are
improperly configured. When you reply all, you are posting to a
newsgroup and to an email address -- two completely separate
entities. I don't think it's out of the ordinary to expect that I
would get multiple copies of the same message in that instance.
I see your confusion. This is a *mailing list* with a newsgroup
gateway. If you're using it as a newsgroup then you have to accept
that you're not using it the way it was meant to be used, and that
almost always has side-effects.
All that said, it's a matter of group etiquette to do things one way
over another (ex: top-posting). Maybe the reply-all etiquette
should be re-addressed?
One persons etiquette is another persons annoyance and in such cases
the majority should (again, IMHO) get their way. Top-posting can
destroy the usefulness of one email when taken out of context, as can
poor or non-existant quoting. That affects anyone who uses the many
archives of this list that exist. Me including your email address in
my replies (which I will continue to do - that's what you have to pay
to get my advice) affects you and you alone and is simply a result of
you "subscribing" to this mailing list through the newsgroup rather
than as a mailing list as FSM intended.
Now please get over it and let us return to the subject at hand.
That's PHP by the way.
-Stut
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