Re: SESSIONS vs. MySQL

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On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jochem Maas <jochem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Philip Thompson schreef:
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Let me start out by saying, I have STFW and read through the list
>> archives. Now that that's out of the way.
>>
>> To speed up our application, we want to implement using SESSIONs in some
>> locations. Beforehand, on every page, we would run approximately 30-40
>> queries just to get the page setup - user information and other stuff. Now
>> while we can't take away all of the setup queries, we would like to reduce
>> the startup number.
>>
>> Ok, so I've implemented this in several places where information basically
>> does not change from page to page. Jumping to the point/question... when
>> does it become more inefficient to store lots of information in SESSION
>> variables than to run several more queries? Note, we are actually storing
>> sessions in the database - so a read/write is required on each page load -
>> it's not file sessions.
>>
>> Now I know this can depend on the complexity of the queries and how much
>> data is actually stored inside the sessions... but initial thoughts? To give
>> you a number, the strlen of the _SESSION array is 325463 - which is
>> equivalent to the number of bytes (I think).
>
> not exactly - depends on how you measure it, also the serialized form of the
> session data is longer still because it contains data type descriptions et
> al.
>
> are you running on a linux box? if so try using session files again and
> sticking your session data in /dev/shm/some-dir which effectively means your
> sticking the files in RAM ... generally much faster than using a DB or the
> FS,
> on the other hand this is rather volatile (if the box goes down you lose all
> the
> data ... but then you have other problems probably, you can get round it
> by regularly backing up the contents of /dev/shm/some-dir and restoring the
> backup
> if/when the machine reboots ... the backup can occur out of process, so
> your page performance isn't directly effected, you'd still have to think
> about
> file locking etc) I use this trick quite often, generally without bothering
> to backup the session data (I figure if the site goes down completely then
> losing session data is the least of my worries ... and a user won't be
> all that surprised to find his login status wiped when the site comes back
> up ... although he/she might be a little miffed)
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~Philip
>>
>
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Wouldn't you (probably) loose sessions in /tmp if the box crashed also?

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