On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 11:11 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 10:55 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > > > > > > > bah; concatenation operator - schmacatatenation operator! i dont > really > > > > care about that; but i would like to see support for $a::$someStatic > come > > > > back. thats what im whining about ;) > > > > > > That funny part, IMHO, is that on internals they often complain about > > > new features not being simple enough for the supposed mentally > incapable > > > masses. And yet there's support for this kind of double quoting stuff > > > that just makes me think poor form, bad style, and where's my t-shirt. > > > > > > are you saying this feature is too esoteric for you ? :) > > No, it's too, hmmm... what's the word... REDUNDANT! > > :) > actually, its a little cleaner if you ask me. infact i think being able to delimit strings in either single or double quotes was a precursor to this. example: java; if i want to have double quotes in a string i *have* to escape them w/in the string \". in php or javascript; i simply delimit the string w/ single quotes. this feature is simply an evolution of that concept, IMHO. > besides i didnt create the double quoted support and thats not even what im > arguing about anyway. the syntax ive mentioned was there in a pre-5.2.4 > release (discovered it didnt actually make the cut for the 5.2.4) it save > you from having to write ugly little helper methods and thats a benefit i > wouldnt mind having. There's a reason they call it "pre-release". It means it's not > "final" ;) > what the world needs is a term for the 'pre-release' being cooler than the release ;) > php has a great dilema, it wants to cater to a wide range of users; from > newbs to experts. thats a massive undertaking and well if youre gonna do > it, you may as well go whole-hog IMHO. I don't see how the throwing everything and the kitchen sink into double > quotes support caters to either of these groups. It strikes me, and of > course that's who matters here >:), i matter more !:D > that it caters to the messy, "I wish > I REALLY knew what I was doing", slovenly crowd. > if you dont know about the concatenation operator my thought is you wont be going far w/ php or any other language for that matter :) Just because a feature exists, doesn't mean you should use it! > here we are back at the classic syntactic sugar argument. at least weve moved past abstract classes and interfaces ! good times :D -nathan