On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 13:17 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > What he means is don't ask for the data literally (by property name) ask > > for it via a method. This allows wrapping the data in "work". This is a > > moot issue in PHP since PHP allows trapping the property accessor. > > > i dont think its moot. if your trapping it via __get() or __set() its still > the same action; driving the client through a well defined interface; if it > just happens to have the same name as the property itself, its still the > same concept. you have the 'work' in the magic methods (at a minimum the > initial part), instead of the getters and setters you would build yourself. > and personally, i think it much cleaner to have separate methods for each of > the properties rather than one big function which has to internally route > control via some sort of logic, be it conditional, variable functions or > w/e. > besides which, for the magic methods to work, the variables have to be > 'inaccessible' according to the docs which means protected, private, or > non-existent; and barring the case of non-existent we are right back in the > realm of encapsulation. > unless you meant something different by 'trapping the property accessor'; > which you usually do pull some unexpected stuff so im waiting for your next > clever example to prove me wrong :D Nope, the point is moot. If I've made my properties publicly accessible, now, due to the ability to trap via __get() or __set(), I can remove them and handle them. Thus, I can retrospectively change the semantics without care for having exposed the properties themselves. The point is moot here because the option now exists to enhance properties at a later date without the need to drive the enhancements through a method the user must call (the details of __get() and __set() are hidden from the user of the properties ;) Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
