>Pardon me, but that's one kludgy idea Hence my use of the term hackish. But really, is isn't all that kludgy. An software solution that implements this natively would have to keep track of the stats somehow; undoubtely via some sort of stats file. So the real difference is that two processes are run, instead of one. Yet, by the same "wrapper" logic, is it not kludgy that php invokes the sendmail binary, instead of using some sort of native php implementation? And again, by the same logic, the sendmail binary that comes with many MTAs is simply a wrapper to allow normal sendmail usage. >postfix has rate-limitation facilities you can use for this I'm aware of several configuration directives that limit rate, none of which directly limit the send rate local users. Perhaps some kludgly or elusive trick involving multiple options would do the trick; I don't claim to be a postfix expert. Perhaps, instead of making empty statements, you might choose to enlighten me as per the exact configuration that will accomplish this. Of course, I spent some time googling, but it appears that not too many people know (or at least write about) how to implement such functionality. I did manage to find two interesting items in my searches: http://www.postfix.org/anvil.8.html http://www.opennix.com/email/postfix/policy/ratelimit.html The former doesn't appear to be magical, and from what my limited and apparently klugdy thoughts permit me to deduce, it seems to bear, conceptually, at least a degree (Celsius, mind you) of similarity to the aforementioned kludgy statistics idea... I didn't find any documentation regarding the implementation of anvil. And the latter, well that's not even a native postfix solution, so apparently, I have failed to find the alleged rate-limitation. All cynical, superficial, and sarcastic storming somewhat consummate, I can at last take solace knowing that I would, had you _suggested_ a better solution, or had I not, kludgy though it apparently was, put some effort into finding a solution, pardoned you. And with the sarcasm, sincerity, and cynicism now accomplished, permit me to offer my most sincere apologies for the above rude, and overly verbose post. -- Greg -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php