Re: www. not working

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Jason Pruim wrote:

On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:

On Feb 19, 2008 10:42 PM, Larry Garfield <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Feb 19, 2008 4:43 AM, Christoph <christoph.boget@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Don't do that.
Some sites may or may not use www. for whatever reason...
Usually screwed-up A-name records by incompetent sysadmins, but there
it is...

Really?  So

games.yahoo.com
blogreport.salon.com
mirror1.downloads.com

are examples of screwed up records by incompetent sysadmins?

   No, they're properly-configured FQDNs.  They're just irrelevant
examples to the context in which Rich was relaying to the OP.

   Picture a server where the A records or CNAMEs don't exist for the
www. alias.  Or, conversely, where the only way to access the domain
is by using the www. alias.

   Those, Christoph, are some of the things incompetent sysops do....
and on a surprisingly frequent basis.

I see, so because I have garfieldtech.com and www.garfieldtech.com pointing to two entirely different servers in different states because I want them to do
different things, I'm an incompetent sysop.  Thanks, good to know.

   Back off, Garfield, my answer couldn't cover everything!  ;-P

   Besides, without fully-quoting the rest of my message, you're
taking it all completely out of context.


DNS was used for a lot of things long before the web came around, ya know.

   You're full of it.  Al Gore never would've invented DNS if he
didn't have plans to let people "get on the AOL" to go to eBay.

   Jocularity aside, DNS was invented in 1983 (shortly after TCP/IP),
whereas the WorldWide Web was first "invented" in 1990.  However, if
you remember ENQUIRE (on ARPANET), which was created by Tom
Berners-Lee (I had to look up his name, I couldn't remember it), the
same guy who went on to create the Web, you may remember it existed
before DNS.  So essentially, even though it wasn't yet known as the
WorldWide Web, a form of it did exist before the Domain Name System.

   Just taking a trip down memory lane.  ;-)


I actually read about that in some history books regarding DNS... Man Brown... You must be old if you actually remember it rather then reading it! :P

"DNS" as we know it used to be done by editing the hosts file on individual computers. There was a central list that was published, and people had to redownload it to get their system to resolve the different and new domains.


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so far off topic it's great :)

1: the garfieldtech and www. pointing to two different servers is in my mind perfectly logical - but also not a great practise due to this www. thing we all have, everybody (99.9%) "assume" domain.ext and www.domain.ext have the same endpoint.

2: www is rediculous and so un-needed it's unreal - every body types in a whole extra 3 letters (4 including the period) for no reason.

3: wants to find a way to ban www. (have done for years)

~idunno
can't wait for 14th March :D

Nath

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