Re: Recommended ORM for PHP

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On Feb 6, 2008 10:59 PM, Larry Garfield <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Edward Kay wrote:
> > Have a look at Qcodo. http://www.qcodo.com.
> >
> > It uses code generation to create your ORM for you direct from the DB
> > tables. As it's code generation as opposed to run time analysis (which
> is
> > what ActiveRecord and the like use), there is no performance hit - it
> > literally just creates your PHP class files for you.
>
> Uh, lots of Active Record systems use code generation.  If the structure
> of
> your data abstraction is based on the database structure, then you're
> using
> Active Record.  It's record-centric.  If you're using an object-centric
> view
> of the world that may just happen to tie to an SQL database for its data
> store, then it's an ORM.
>
> Both are useful in different circumstances, but whether or not there is
> code
> generation has nothing to do with whether it's AR or ORM.
>

well i think its worth a mention that qcodo has an article that
distinguishes
'ActiveRecord classes' from the 'ActiveRecord pattern'.
http://www.qcodo.com/documentation/article.php/6
what it mainly says is that code generation increases performance over
runtime
analysis of some model; eg. the database schema or perhaps some other
representation, such as xml (or yaml [apparently ;)]).  the article also
classifies
ruby on rails as one of these obfusticators of fowlers original pattern;
greg, thoughts ?

anyway, im not sure i agree with the distinction of code-generation vs.
metaprogramming;
i sort of see them overlapping.

and also, on the original topic of the thread; there was just another thread
on this the
other day; check out propel and doctrine; and said thread ;)
http://marc.info/?l=php-general&m=120215073929527&w=2

-nathan

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