On Jan 30, 2008 1:29 PM, Greg Donald <gdonald@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ruby has 7 frameworks that I know of: Nitro, IOWA, Ramaze, Cerise, > Ruby on Rails, Merb and Camping. > http://www.nitroproject.org/ > http://enigo.com/projects/iowa/ > http://ramaze.net/ > http://cerise.rubyforge.org/ > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ > http://www.merbivore.com/ > http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/camping good for ruby, rails is the only one people ever mention. > The most popular PHP frameworks are Rails clones it seems. im no framework expert, but last time i checked one of the first guys on the block was, struts, way back in the day. and most frameworks for the web are based on mvc, a concept from decades ago, not something the ruby guys cooked up. > Further, if the number frameworks a language has is any measure of > that's language's quality or capabilities (clue: it isn't) then why > aren't you a Java guy? java is awesome, it just hasnt worked out for me career wise. It clearly has _more_ frameworks. just pointing out that the rails guys dont have much wiggle room. surely, youre familiar w/ this post: http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reasons_i_switched_back_to_p_1.html > Propel still uses XML last I messed with it. Yaml is a lot better for > similar tasks. The syntax is a lot smaller which makes it a lot > faster than XML. well lets see, it only reads the xml when the code is generated, which is not that often so any slowness of xml is not valid. and last time i generated code in my project it took like under 5 seconds; boy that xml sure was painful =/ Perfect example of an advance in web technology. perfect example of something that doesnt make much difference. -nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php