RE: Foreach

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.butera@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:21 PM
> To: mike
> Cc: PHP eMail List
> Subject: Re:  Foreach
> 
> On Jan 18, 2008 5:06 PM, mike <mike503@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 1/18/08, Eric Butera <eric.butera@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Nonetheless as I keep re-iterating, people will copy and paste this
> > > stuff as is because they don't know better.  It is the
> responsibility
> > > of people writing the answers to make sure their code is validated
> and
> > > as "secure" as possible unless there is some glaringly obvious
> comment
> > > saying {get your data here} with a link to how to validate it
> > > properly.
> >
> > I agree. Everyone should be pushing for the best code possible
> here...
> >
> > > Using session based form tokens is a better approach to make sure
> the
> > > post came from within your application.
> >
> > Except if your sessions timeout while the user is filling out the
> > form. I have a forum and sometimes people spend a LOT of time
> > composing messages (copy/pasting replies to reply to them, etc) and
> if
> > it's session-based, their session may timeout (depending on how it's
> > configured) before they hit submit, resulting in a total loss of
> data.
> > Unless the application understands to restart a session, but then
> > what's the point of the token...
> >
> > I have non-user-specific tokens issued every request (with an expiry
> > of 24 hours) per form so it can only be submitted once. It's worked
> > pretty well, but as with everything there are a couple ways around
> it,
> > but it would take some work to do that.
> >
> 
> That is a good point to consider.  On our servers we have the session
> timeout set to when the browser is closed so I forget sometimes people
> put actual time limits on them.
> 
> --

Please, don't get me wrong, I'm just curious, how does the server know when
the browser is closed? Do you use javascript (AJAX) or something to notify
the server?
As far as I remember, sessions are:

1 - A cookie (or a GET/POST parameter that gets passed by from page to page)
2 - A session file

So when the user closes the browser and opens it up again, a new cookie will
be generated by the server if it didn't get one in the request (and a new
session file will be created as well), but that doesn't delete the old
session file. I mean, isn't it supposed to be a garbage collection feature
in any session implementation (that is what the session timeout is for,
isn't it)? Or is it just that I'm missing something?

Regards,

Rob

PS. Yes, I know you can have persistent cookies, and you can store session
data in there. But the data length has a limit of some KB AFAIK, and you'd
have to encrypt/decrypt sensitive information.


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