> >> Ubuntu = Debian + New Life > > > > Mandriva has Eclipse and PHPEclipse 'out of the box' along with Apache > > and PHP > > I can build a fully functional development machine from a pile of bits > > in under an hour ;) > > And currently that includes downloading the latest updates :) > > > > +1 for Mandriva :) > > As a long time Mandriva user and not-such-a-long time contributor, I've > looked on the rise of Ubuntu with great interest. I think where they've > excelled is in community - it's definitely got a lot of momentum.... but > where this falls down is the lack of centralised management. There are > simply too many independent package repositories out there doing there > own packages and not necessarily getting them all correct with their > naming and obsoletion etc. This makes it difficult for people upgrading > in the future from ad-hoc third party packages to official packages. One > of the things I like about Linux (distros) is the central > packaging/deployment system as it keeps things neat, tidy and, most > importantly, structured... Just my €0.02. I think PCLinuxOS is based on Mandriva (I could be wrong), and it passed Ubuntu on distrowatch.com _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us