""Nathan Nobbe"" <quickshiftin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:7dd2dc0b0709292018q6a5aa7d1w1c422628ca00ae7d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > although some people believe differently than i; i would argue > trying to learn how to design w/ the classes that php4 provides > is a waste of time. I disagree. PHP 4 gives you access to classes, encapsulation, inheriance and polymorphism. This is all you need for OO programming. All that extra crap in PHP 5 is just window dressing. > most books you will find regarding object oriented > design assume the language has the basic constructs. ppp mainly. > also, there are other important facilities php4 lacks like abstract > classes You can write abstact classses in PHP 4, it's just that you can't use the word "abstract". Interfaces are totally irrelevant as any method can be accessed directly through its function definition. > and interfaces, not to mention you have to explicitly assign objects by > reference in php4. (if you dont want a copy created). > unless you are bound to php4 by work or something > i suggest you start working w/ php5. also, if your looking for some > design > techniques i recommend studying design patterns. Design patterns are overrated. For building transactions in CRUD applications you need transaction patterns. -- Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org > the heads first book > is a great starting point. > actually if you want a solid reference thats free on the web look at > phpPatterns <http://www.phppatterns.com/docs/start> > the code is mostly php4 i believe. > > -nathan > > > On 9/29/07, Jeff Cohan <jdcohan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Yes, I know how to Google, and I've been Googling... >> >> But I would appreciate advice about good beginner tutorials using >> classes in PHP4 based on your actual experiences. I.e., have some of >> you found tutorials that really unlocked the doors for you? >> >> Ideally, such tutorials would have somewhat realistic examples. (I >> already know how to output "Hello, World" using a class, and I tend >> to find examples like those unhelpful. Maybe it's just me.) >> >> My main challenge is modularizing yer basic BREAD/CRUD operations >> with MySQL databases. >> >> I've made some strides in creating increasingly modular functions to >> present browse lists, edit forms and add forms; to perform >> field-level and form-level validations; and to perform inserts, >> updates and deletes. My approach is to utilize multidimensional >> arrays which define the column names, column labels (for forms), >> form control types (input, select, checkbox, etc.) and other >> attributes of the form controls. I've got a "library" of validation >> routines with error messages that appear on the form under the >> culprit form control. >> >> But I think taking the next step to use classes is going to make my >> life much easier. >> >> TIA for any guidance you might be able to offer. >> >> Jeff >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
