Hey, <clip David> Piracy, unauthorized copying, call it what you will, involves a chain. Perhaps if the poor saps who make the unauthorized copies realized just how they're being exploited, things might change. </clip David> Sorry, but disagree with you here, the "poor saps" know the site owners are making money but just dont give a crap... the actual reason they choose to upload and share can probably start another thread thats longer than this one... but IMHO they know how it works and just want to share. They know they cant make a cent off it coz if the site owners started to pay them... theres a money trail that can be picked up/traced and they get into trouble... This way they upload if they want to... and downloads are always there.. <clip Crayon> Not exactly, Adam's payback is that he hopes others do the same, so where he uploaded one item, he is able to download hundreds and thousands of items that others have uploaded. </clip Crayon> Disagree again, if Adam uploads or not, there is a whole bunch of stuff out there that he cant hope to download in a lifetime. Even if you are "member" of a torrent site, you dont have to upload to download files.... once you finish your download you can continue to share (seed) the file to others (if you need to mantain your "up/down ratio"). Not everyone who downloads uploads new files.. Like I said above, the actual motivation for Adam to upload a new file can feed a whole new looongg thread...so I wont even go there. Cheers! R ------ - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.