Re: Re: About XSLT/XML Pagination

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thanks for your reply tony.
i started reading about xsl almost 2 years ago, but only started
experimenting using it in conjuction w/
php about 6 months ago, so im quite new to it still.
the greatest thing ive learned from your articles so far is a modularization
approach for the xsl files.
my first attempt is pretty pathetic, i have just one xsl file per page, and
since the pages generally look
the same each xsl file has a large amount of overlapping code.  i knew there
was a way to avoid this,
but i wasnt sure how until you hopped on the list and pointed us to your
articles and framework.
though ive been busy with other things im looking forward to getting back
into xsl and doing it right.

ive also been building the xml data in memory, but the internal validation
came to mind when i started
pondering what the benefit of incorporating DTDs or XMLSchemas would be.  to
illustrate what im
imagining take some simple xml data, but imagine it has a DTD or XMLSchema
associated with it.  now
as part of the process of building this xml datum in memory *the system* would,
as a last step, validatate the
datum against its DTD or XMLSchema.  the rationale here being the structure
of the memory resident
xml may be faulty.  what im going for here is a system where developers
would be given the responsibility
of wrting code that would build the xml data that would in turn be handed to
the xslt processor.  i know
we all try to do our best in life, but i imagine there would be mistakes in
the generation of said xml data
at some point, and rather than have this impact the output of a dynamic page
wouldnt it be better for the system
to realize an error ahead of time and handle it gracefully?

-nathan

On 7/22/07, Tony Marston <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


""Nathan Nobbe"" <quickshiftin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7dd2dc0b0707220819l3ac2579aw90a8a2f9b3f1bfb1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Tony,
>
> what are the trade offs between creating xml files and creating objects
in
> memory to
> pass to the xslt processor?  if arbitrary xml data is only going to be
> used
> on a single
> dynamic page, then is it necessary to create a file?

Although I say XML file I actually build and process it in memory. I only
write a copy to disk for debugging purposes. The contents of the file (or
document) is the same wherever it exists.

> also, is there any reason to leverage the validation features of xml
while
> building a dynamic page?  for instance assume data was drawn from a
> database to create 1 or more xml files.  would it make sense to validate
> those new xml files prior to invoking the xslt processor, and optionally
> not invoke the transformation process if the xml data is found to be
> invalid?

This would be overkill. If you are going to build and consume an XML
document yourself there is no point in validating it. Remember that XML
was
originally designed as a format for data interchange, so validation is
only
necessary when you receive an XML document from a third party.

--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org

> thanks,
>
> -nathan
>
> On 7/22/07, Tony Marston <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> You misunderstand that article. All pagination is done within the
program
>> code in order to construct the SQL query with the relevant LIMIT and
>> OFFSET
>> values. The entire result set is then extracted from the database and
>> written to an XML file, and the XSL transforms the whole XML file into
a
>> single HTML document, after which the XML document is discarded. The
HTML
>> document contains hyperlinks which allow the user to select the number
of
>> rows per page and the desired page number and these selections are
>> processed
>> within the PHP code. There is no process which goes back to the
previous
>> XML
>> file to extract just a subset of the rows that need to be displayed as
>> each
>> page is extracted directly from the database.
>>
>> --
>> Tony Marston
>> http://www.tonymarston.net
>> http://www.radicore.org
>>
>> "Kelvin Park" <kelvinpark86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:46A3180B.3020900@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/xsl.html#a1
>> > This site generally explains how pagination is done with xslt and
xml.
>> > However it does not fully explain how to paginate the data when a
>> certain
>> > number of rows are printed.
>> > For example, it wouldn't make another page after 100 item names were
>> > printed out where total there are 1000 items that need to be printed
>> out,
>> > making it total 10 pages.
>> > Do you know what should be added in order to make it work?
>>
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