Thank you, Jay, that is interesting. I am looking for the am / pm denomination, which I do not see in mktime() I am essentially trying to have the TIME type which is a 24 hour clock display instead as a 12 hour clock with am and pm. I AM A TOTAL NEWBIE, (2ND DAY ever) so if I misunderstood the answer, I am sorry! Melissa -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php