Don't know if it'll do what you want it to do...and if you're using Joomla, it might be tricky (or not... havn't messed with Joomla enough to know) to insert it into the system in a meaningful way.. but check out this: FirePHP: http://www.firephp.org/ Works with Firebug Firefox extension to give some PHP debugging and profiling data. I'm sure there are a dozen other solutions that people will offer up, just wanted to get that one in there :) -TG = = = Original message = = = I am trying to load a PHP debugger in our most recent build of PHP 5.2.1. The debugger which I am trying to set up is the free, pre-compiled Linux version of dbg ( DBG 2.15.5 dbg modules), from http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/, and all of the instructions have been followed as posted on the NuSphere site. Yes, Apache has been stopped and restarted!! There is no difference in the output from phpinfo(). The line "with DBG v2.11.30, (C) 2000,2004 by Dmitri Dmitrienko, http://dd.cron.ru" does not appear. PHP is compiled without debugging, but I did consider that was for the purpose of debugging PHP itself, not scripts. Suggestions will be most welcome. Also, I'm not married to this, so if anyone thinks there is a better debugger, please jump in. Regards - Miles Thompson PS Why are we doing this? Because we are getting tired of debugging with Javascript alert() boxes. /mt PPS And we are using those because of Joomla! Some things are buried so deeply we cannot use print() or echo(). /mt -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php