RE: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tedd [mailto:tedd@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: Tijnema !; John Comerford
> Cc: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA
> 
> At 3:37 PM +0200 3/30/07, Tijnema ! wrote:
> >On 3/30/07, John Comerford <johnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>I was reading the current tread on CAPTCHA and possible cracks and I
> >>thought maybe I'd throw this out to the group to see what you think.
> >>Recently I saw a forum where in order to post you first had 
> to click on
> >>a div that was placed at a random location on the page, it read
> >>something like, "Click here if you are human".  I was thinking that
> >>maybe you could put together a system that looks something 
> like this:
> >>
> >>http://people.aapt.net.au/JComerford/ClickMe.htm
> >>
> >>I was thinking you could use it in a couple of ways:
> >>
> >>1) As a replacement to a CAPTCHA image
> >>2) When you click the image a CAPTCHA image is loaded into 
> the 'Click
> >>Me' container
> >>
> >>The main problem is how to tell the server that the div has been
> >>clicked, in a way that can't be simulated.  I am not an expect with
> >>either JS or PHP, but maybe some of the bigger brains out 
> there could
> >>throw in their 2 cents......
> >>
> >>JC
> >
> >This looks maybe hard to crack, but actually it isn't very hard. All
> >the clicking does is calling a javascript function. You still could
> >submit the page without clicking the box.
> >
> >Tijnema
> 
> Tijnema & John:
> 
> The above link I've already done a long time ago. But check out my 
> dot CAPTCHA here:
> 
> http://sperling.com/examples/p-captcha
> 


Maybe I'm going blind.. But I don't see a circle on that page anywhere?
Everywhere I click it fails......
Jake



> This does not use javascript, but does use sessions.
> 
> As you can see, the blue dot can be placed anywhere on the entrance 
> page. Granted this presents problem for the visually impaired, so I'm 
> not recommending it. But, it's just a proof of concept at this point. 
> Plus, I have not checked this on all browsers. I suspect that some 
> browsers may have problems with alpha channel images -- so your 
> mileage may differ.
> 
> In any event, I think this may be a bit more difficult to crack than 
> something that replies upon javascript -- what do you think?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> tedd
> 
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