I'll think about it.. We only use php for intranet applications I create, so the server is basically dead at nights, which is when I do most of my work..... > > Jake McHenry wrote: > > I don't want 2 instances of apache running, your over > thinking this... I > > whatever, I guess we have different opinions about trying to > do things 'properly'. > > > > > only asked if I need to change only the prefix, or if there > is anything > > else, to get both php versions installed. > > so you have 2 versions of php installed. you can't run the > apache module of both > version simultaneously. so your going to shut down apache on > a production box > and then fiddle the config to run with the php5 module and > bring it back up. The original config is from OS installation, so who knows what I could mess up by doing this, this is why I'm asking, cause I don't want to screw up php, apache would be just more to add on to it.... > > then what? you hope that all your sites/code runs okay with > php5? if it doesn't > you can only fix it if you keep running with the broken sites > on php5 otherwise you > can only unfiddle the config and stick with php4. no? > Its only 1 line in httpd.conf, just change from php4 module to php5 module..... Not that big of a deal.... > > Once I see my scripts are working > > ok, or not, I'll be getting rid of php4. I'm not running a > dev machine, this > > is production, and the only one I have currently, > > you might consider that the machine whose screen your looking > at whilst reading this > is a perfectly good dev machine - you seem to on a windows > PC, which of itself is not > a problem in terms of setting up a dev environment that > suitably mirrors the apache/php/DB > configuration of your production server but you may have > issues with 'your' php code itself > depending the [OS] portability of the code. Most of my stuff works on windows too, but some of the earlier scripts accessing files don't work,, I've already considered moving the site to my desktop while I upgrade the server.. But no........ > > given that the server in question is a production server > there is even more reason to > not disrupt service whilst testing your code on php5 - which > is exactly what a second > [temporary, custom] install of apache would allow you to do. > sure it's a bit more work > but it's also more professional - it means you can update the > 'real' apache to run php5 > in the safe knowledge that it will *work* with only a few > seconds of down time whilst > you restart the webserver process. > > > my backup died last week > > and I haven't gotten the parts for it yet. Is prefix the > only option I need > > to change? Or do I need to change these too? > > no just change prefix. (although I'm not 100% sure about > localstatedir - I have never touched myself > and I do run various machines that have php4 and php5 > installed [compiled by hand as you are doing]) > > btw - installing a second apache is rather the same as > installing a second copy of > php in so far as you can also specify a custom prefix to have > it install (and read it's config) > from some other place - so as not to interfere with the > production apache. > As long as I use prefix, all of these options point to /prefix/otheroptiondirectories correct? Making prefix the root? So in the OS installation of PHP and httpd, that's why it left prefix blank, and put in the values below..... So with the config the way it is now... It would overwrite php4 and I would really be screwed... > > > > --datadir=/usr/share \ > > --includedir=/usr/include \ > > --libdir=/usr/lib \ > > --libexecdir=/usr/libexec \ > > --localstatedir=/var \ > > --mandir=/usr/share/man \ > > --infodir=/usr/share/info \ > > --with-exec-dir=/usr/bin \ > > > > > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > >> Jake McHenry wrote: > >>> Sorry about the delivery and read requests.. I was tired > >> and forgot to turn > >>> them off for the list...... > >>> > >>>> alternatively you can search for 'Rasmus' and 'ProxyPass' > >> in the list > >>>> archive and use Rasmus' rather cool ProxyPass solution to > >> running both > >>>> php4 and php5 ... his explanation should give you enough info > >>>> to set it up. > >>>> > >>> I don't need them running parallel, only both installed > >> I think you missed the point. you would have 2 apaches > >> running, that is correct > >> but the trick is to set it up so that they use the same > document roots > >> for each site that you are trying to convert. > >> > >> the beauty of this is that you can literally run the same > >> site in php5 and php4 > >> simulaneously with urls something *like*: > >> > >> php4.mydevsite.com > >> php5.mydevsite.com (ProxyPassed to 'inner' apache) > >> > >> > >> were HOSTS file contains: > >> > >> 127.0.0.1 php4.mydevsite.com php5.mydevsite.com > >> > >> and both outer and inner apache's use the same docroot for > >> the given site. > >> > >> obviously it's just one way of setting up a comfortable dev > >> environment - as long > >> as you have something that allows you to doo your tihng > >> without to much pain then thats > >> the main thing :-) > >> > >> > >> > >>>> Tijnema ! wrote: > >>>>> On 3/22/07, Jake McHenry <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I just got done going through all my configure options for > >>>> php5, and > >>>>>> finally > >>>>>> configure finished successfully... I didn't install it > >> yet, have a > >>>>>> question. > >>>>>> Can I have both 4 and 5 installed temporarily until I'm > >> sure all my > >>>>>> scripts > >>>>>> work ok? They should, I've been careful, but I want to be > >>>> sure since > >>>>>> this is > >>>>>> the only server I currently have. I was going to install > >> a virtual > >>>>>> copy of > >>>>>> fedora and do testing, but I don't have time, hopefully > >> someone can > >>>>>> answer. > >>>>>> I think I just have to change the prefix to something > other than > >>>>>> default and > >>>>>> load the new module in httpd. If I had more time I would > >>>> do this the > >>>>>> right > >>>>>> way, but we all know how that goes... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If this will work, I can then just uninstall 4.. Hopefully > >>>> it won't break > >>>>>> anything. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll post my configure options if anyone would like to > >>>> double check.... > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Jake > >>>>> If you use make install on the second one, it will add > the libphp5 > >>>>> library to your httpd.conf, and then you would have libphp4 and > >>>>> libphp5 in your httpd.conf. That is guaranteed to give > >>>> problems. So if > >>>>> you comment out one of the 2, then it works fine. > >>> > >>> Yes, I just wanted to make sure I only needed to change the > >> prefix to get > >>> them both installed > >>> > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 7:44 AM -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
