I don't understand how to rebuild the template so I don't have ordered lists for each fieldset when using HTML_QuickForm_Renderer_Tableless. outputted source code looks like this: <form action="/estimate.php" method="post" name="frmEstimate" id="frmEstimate"> <div style="display: none;"></div> <fieldset> <legend>Your Information</legend> <ol> <li><label for="txtFullName" class="element"><span class="required">*</span>Full Name:</label><div class="element"><input id="txtFullName" name="txtFullName" type="text" /></div></li> I'd like to know how to change that and I simply can't get the renderer to work. Thanks -- Chuck rYno chuckryno@xxxxxxxxx