Re: Frameworks

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ray.hauge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I know this subject has been covered in the past, but my question is why
> use them?  

it's kind of the same question as 'why use software libraries?' - which is
kind of answered by 'do you want to write your own TCP/IP stack *everytime*
you write a network enabled piece of software?"

> I'm hoping to not create a religious war...  I see that
> frameworks would probably help you develop some things faster, but most
> of the time they don't do the things the way I would want them to work. 
> If I did use one, it almost seems like I would use it to get through
> something  until I had time to do things the way I wanted/needed to do
> them.  There's a lot of talk about frameworks lately, and especially
> the Zend Framework, so I'd like to look into what it's all about.  I
> think I might be missing out the framework issue, so I'd like to hear
> other people's opinions.

the name of the game is 'code reuse' - whether it's libs, framework, CMS or
legobricks doesn't really matter.

> 
> I do like the mail, pdf, and a few other parts of the Zend Framework.  I
> also like that it's more like a set of tools than a monolithic beast
> that would take a lot of memory just to load up into your application.

well Zend is more of a library+philosophy than a framework, a framework
suggests a complete, ready to run, application development environment
(which doesn't mean, by definition, that it has to be a big, slow beast)

either you rewrite a menu generation function for every site you build or
you develop/download/install something generic and save yourself lots of time/energy
(because you no longer have to reinvent the wheel)

you'll find lots of people build up a personal collection of reusable code
that more often than not is partially comnprised of 3rd party code - i.e.
if you like some bits of Zend just grab them, mould them and stick'em in your
personal toolbox (assuming the licenses allow this)

> 
> Your thoughts?

I was going to write something demeaning about driving 5 liter pickup trucks
as if oxygen was going out of fashion, but I've calmed down again.

> 
> Thanks,
> Ray
> 

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